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AFL-SVO-СБП: Она начала летать в 1956 году. Marlene Evans начала работать бортпроводницей когда ей было 19 лет ... August 24, 2007 Репортёр NBC TV's Today Show взял интервью у Marlene Evans бортпроводницы Delta Airlines, которая в прошлом месяце отметила 51-й юбилей её лётной работы. В тот день она выполняла рейс из Атланты (шт.Джорджия, США) в Дюссельдорф (Германия). Marlene Evans начала свою карьеру бортпроводницей в 1956 в авиакомпании Pacific Northern Airlines, которая впоследствии соединилась с а/к Western Airlines и затем с Delta. По подсчётам самой Marlene Evans, она уже налетала порядка 18 миллионов миль. По её словам, она и сейчас получает удовольствие от своей работы и не собирается уходить на пенсию. (Репортаж NBC TV's Today Show с Marlene Evans можно посмотреть здесь (репортаж начнётся после 30-и секундной рекламы)) P.S. В конце репортажа репортёр отмечает, что на сегодняшний день старейшая стюардесса Iris Peterson, которая начала полёты ещё в 1946 году, недавно уволилась из авиакомпании United Airlines в возрасте 86 лет. Стаж её лётной работы составил 60 лет. (подробности здесь ) ... так же известна 82-летняя бортпроводница в авиакомпании Northwest Airlines.
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airline: AFL-SVO-СБП пишет: уволилась из авиакомпании United Airlines в возрасте 86 лет известна 82-летняя бортпроводница Их, наверное, только для центровки самолета возили.
pilot: airline пишет: Их, наверное, только для центровки самолета возили. Там трудовое законодательство сильное, а профсоюзы ещё сильней - хрен выпрешь этих бабок с работы, если работают как положено и здоровье позволяет.
AFL-SVO-СБП: pilot пишет: Там трудовое законодательство сильное, а профсоюзы ещё сильней - Это точно. Там кстати, в статье про 86-летнюю даму пишут, что она была профсоюзной активисткой: Active in her union throughout her career, Iris held various leadership positions and often represented her colleagues in grievances, safety issues and on Capitol Hill. ... In 1953, she was the first official lobbyist for the Air Line Stewards and Stewardesses Association. ...
alex o: Переплюнем всех иностранных бабок! Даёшь 90 - не предел!!!
A.C.A.B.: alex o пишет:Даёшь 90 Саннорму, что ли?
Летяга: 86 лет, стюардесса... вот кошмар-то!.. Просто живой музейный экспонат, экспозиция "история нашей авиации"
Shoes off: Летал когда-то в Вашинтон и был я там пару раз в музее авиации и космонавтики. При входе в музей стоит наша советская ракета "Восток" 50-х годов постройки. Так вот, не порали этим бабулькам занять место этой ракеты? Предлагаю устроить здесь на форуме голосование... Я ЗА, ОБЕИМИ РУКАМИ!!!!! С уважением и надеждой на успех этого грандиозного проекта...
AFL-SVO-СБП: Come Fly With Me! - http://www.departures.com/articles/come-fly-with-me
SPA: Ну да, я же говрю, что в 50 лет (полетов) жизнь только начинается!
koctuk: http://lenta.ru/news/2012/08/27/attendant/83-летний бортпроводник собрался на пенсию Житель штата Колорадо Рон Акана, бортпроводник с 63-летним стажем работы, собрался на пенсию. Как сообщает UPI, 83-летний Акана должен совершить свой последний полет в воскресенье, 26 августа (в понедельник, 27 августа, по Москве). В качестве старшего бортпроводника пожилой специалист отправится в Гонолулу, а обратно в Денвер полетит уже как пассажир. Рон Акана родом с Гавайских островов, но в молодости он уехал оттуда и устроился на работу в авиакомпании United Airlines. За время своей работы он обслуживал во время перелетов и многих знаменитостей, среди которых - бывший президент США Билл Клинтон, британская актриса Дебора Керр и американский комик Ред Скелтон. Жена Аканы также работала стюардессой в United Airlines, однако она была вынуждена уволиться после вступления в брак - таковы правила авиакомпании. В настоящее время дочь Рона и его жены Элизабет, Джин, также работает бортпроводницей. По словам 83-летнего стюарда, он будет скучать по своей работе, но состояние его здоровья уже не позволяет ему часто летать. UPI указывает, что Книга рекордов Гиннесса признала Акану самым возрастным бортпроводником, но на сайте Книги найти этому подтверждение не удалось. United Airlines была основана в 1926 году в Айдахо. Компания считается крупнейшим перевозчиком в мире, в United работают более 86 тысяч человек. Самолеты компании летают по тысячам направлений в 170 странах мира. В 13:00 понедельника, 27 августа, по московскому времени в Гонолулу было 23:00 воскресенья.
FANTOMAS: U.S.: King of the Sky - nytimes.com/video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wki_xOZtKxQ
AFL-SVO-СБП: Из телесюжета: Рон Акана, бортпроводник с 63-летним стажем работы в а/к "Юнайтед Эйрлайнз": - самый пожилой бортпроводник в США - начал работать в "Юнайтед" в 1949 году - когда он устраивался на работу было порядка 400 кандидатов на 8 мест - налетал порядка 10-15 млн миль - был одним из первых бортпроводников, начавших полёты на Боинг "Стратокрузер" в которов был бар на нижней палубе - получает зарплату в $106 000 в год, пенсионный фонд и прочие льготы ... Из воспоминаний Рона: однажды у них на борту оказался полный состав съёмочной группы фильма "Отсюда в бесконечность" ( From Here to Eternity (1953) ) включая Френка Синатра, Монтгомери Клиф, Батра Ланкастра ... Барт Ланкастер впечатлил Рона тем, что после выпитых 13-и коктейлей "Мартини" всё ещё держался на ногах ... Стаж работы в авиакомпании даёт возможность бортпроводникам и пилотам выбирать самим какие рейсы им выполнять. Своим завершающим рейсом Рон выбрал рейс из Денвера на Гавайи чтобы посетить места, где он родился и провёл детство.
AFL-SVO-СБП: Carole DiSalvo вышла на пенсию в возрасте 75 лет после 54 лет полётов в качестве бортпроводницы авиакомпании American Airlines. В статье также говорится, что одной из причин выхода на пенсию было то, что авиакомпания предложила ей компенсацию в размере $40 000, если Кэрол согласится уйти на пенсию. (Это обычная практика в американских компаниях, называется "early retirement package". Похоже, что её "выходное пособие" составило 40% её годовой зарплаты...) Flight attendant grounds herself after 54 years with American Airlines By TERRY MAXON Staff Writer email@example.com Published: 02 February 2013 05:03 PM When Carole DiSalvo began working as an American Airlines Inc. stewardess, she thought she might stay a couple of years. Maybe that long. “I was 20 when I went with American,” DiSalvo recalled. “And two years was truly the maximum. You couldn’t be married. Back then, people were getting married a lot younger than they are now. So two years was truly about the maximum that you would expect to fly. Never would you expect to go five years or 10 years.” More than 54 years later, DiSalvo, 75, has finally grounded herself. She worked her last assignments in mid-January, on a flight from Chicago to Shanghai, and then a flight back to Chicago. On Thursday, she ended a career that touched seven decades, 11 U.S. presidential administrations, numerous management changes, industry deregulation and the economic turbulence that has shaken the industry. She arrived at American a few months before its first jet, the Boeing 707, began service. She began work more than two years before American’s current chairman and chief executive, Tom Horton, was born. She retires as American’s most senior flight attendant on active duty. A woman hired a month before her in 1958 retired in December but had been on medical leave for some time and had not been flying. Final duties DiSalvo’s last official duties were Monday, when she spoke to American’s first class of new-hire flight attendants in 12 years, a group that gave her a standing ovation after her presentation. The following day, she talked to The Dallas Morning News about her career. “As a matter of fact, after today, it’s going to be all over — and it’s going to be one of the saddest days of my life,” she said as the interview neared its end, her voice cracking. But with a smile, she quickly instructed herself, “Stop it.” DiSalvo was working as a secretary at Continental Can Co. in 1958 when her boss suggested that she might like to work as an airline stewardess. The idea appealed to her; she didn’t like the daily commute to her downtown Chicago job, nor did she see herself as a 9-to-5 person. Still, she wonders whether her boss was subtly telling her to go get another job. Regardless, with her mother and sister along for moral support, she visited Trans World Airlines Inc., which was hiring. “It was jammed with people. It was a pretty intensive interview,” DiSalvo said. “But then they said, ‘You know, we like you, but come back when your nails are longer.’” She left the interview and told her mom that she wanted to go by American Airlines’ offices at Chicago’s Midway Airport. DiSalvo walked into a hangar and learned that a personnel person was on site. The man met with her, then said, “I’ll be right back,” DiSalvo remembered. “He came back and he had the overseas cap in his hand. He put it on my head, and he said, ‘You’ll do just fine. You’ll hear from us.’” A few weeks later, she got a call from American telling her she was hired. She began training Sept. 13, 1958, at American’s new training center in Fort Worth, one of 32 new stewardesses in that class. Upon graduation, most new flight attendants were assigned to New York and Los Angeles. However, it needed Spanish-speaking flight attendants based in Chicago and Dallas, and DiSalvo really wanted to be in Chicago to be near her boyfriend. She acknowledges today that she didn’t know Spanish. But with help from a roommate from El Paso, she learned the Spanish public announcements she needed to know and got her Chicago assignment. But what about the guy? “That boyfriend lasted about a week after I got to Chicago,” DiSalvo said. She moved to Los Angeles in 1960 and returned to Chicago in 1964 after her father suffered a major stroke. She was based there the rest of her career. The old rules When she joined American, the rules for flight attendants were spelled out at the outset: Nobody could work as a flight attendant after age 32. Nobody could be married and fly. Nobody could have children and fly. One by one, those rules changed, allowing DiSalvo to continue flying after she turned 32 in 1969 and after she got married in 1971. Over time, many of the colleagues she began flying with decided to leave. But not her, even though she never told herself that she would stay so long. “It’s amazing with this job how time just flies by. You have a different schedule each month. One month goes into the next month. I never even thought about it,” she said. Even after she and her husband, Joe, a patent attorney, adopted the first of two children more than 27 years ago, DiSalvo decided to keep flying, convinced she could handle children and a career. “In all sincerity, I never sat and thought, ‘Ah, jeez, when am I going to quit this?’ A couple of times when you have a rough trip or something, you’d think about it. But time flew by.” In 2003, as American was struggling financially, DiSalvo did decide to retire — a decision that lasted an hour and 45 minutes. A number of friends had decided to take American’s incentive payments to retire, and they encouraged her to do so as well. Finally, she called her supervisor’s office and asked that her resignation papers go in before the 5 p.m. deadline. But she felt so bad about the decision that she called back a few minutes after the deadline to see if she could change her mind. The secretary hadn’t faxed DiSalvo’s resignation to the airline’s Fort Worth headquarters yet, and tore it up. Some memories remain somber. On May 25, 1979, an American flight to Los Angeles crashed after takeoff from Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport, killing all aboard, including the Los Angeles-based crew of flight attendants. “I remember the day as though it were yesterday. It was very, very tragic.” She also recalls the March 1, 1962, crash of American Airlines Flight 1 as it departed New York International Airport, popularly known then as Idlewild and now as John F. Kennedy International Airport. “I was at the airport in Los Angeles the day before the flight, and I ran into a friend of mine. I asked her where she was going. She said she was going to New York,” DiSalvo said. When the return flight the next day crashed, DiSalvo knew it was the one her friend was staffing and mourned for her lost friend. Then a week later, DiSalvo ran into her again at the Los Angeles operations offices. “You talk about really, really falling apart,” DiSalvo said. “She had been removed from the flight at the last minute. We just clung to each other for the longest time.” DiSalvo’s worst day was Sept. 11, 2001, when hijackers took over four flights, two of them operated by American, and crashed them. “I thought I was doing OK. But then, about two weeks after that, I would just wake up and have anxiety attacks and have to get up out of bed and run downstairs. It was cold outside, and I would run up and down the street. I didn’t know what was wrong,” she said. Eventually, her doctor diagnosed her as suffering from depression. Lots of changes As airline veterans do, DiSalvo has noted changes in the industry and its customers since she began working. The suits and ties for male travelers and the dresses for women have been replaced by much more casual dress. Also, everyone flies today, rather than mostly businessmen, as it was when she started. The jet age at American began soon after DiSalvo started working there, with American’s first Boeing 707 making its maiden voyage with passengers in January 1959. That aircraft model, “very homey,” remains DiSalvo’s favorite of the many she’s worked on. “The Boeing 747 was exciting because of the upper deck and the staircase and we had three different galleys. But from a flight attendant viewpoint, it was very impersonal. Half the time, you never saw the other flight attendants in the middle and in the back,” she said. The 747, out of American’s fleet since 1983 except for a pair kept until 1992, had a spiral staircase leading to its upper deck, DiSalvo recalled. “We would put liquor out, actual fifths of liquor, and passengers would help themselves. We’d put out cheese and crackers. Very, very elegant. And sometimes, some of those passengers had difficulties coming down that staircase,” she said. On Monday, when the new flight attendants asked her to name the celebrities she had served, she paused to think. “Marlon Brando — very nice. Adlai Stevenson.” Richard Nixon saw her in an airport and asked her if she had worked his flight; she said no. “He came over and he kissed my hand.” Her favorite celebrity, though, was Neil Diamond. Other passengers had gotten off the airplane while he remained in his first-class seat for the next leg of the flight. DiSalvo, who had worked the coach section, stayed on board while the plane was on the ground. “I saw him and started to sing ‘Sweet Caroline.’” Diamond gestured for her to stop. And then, she smiled, “he sang ‘Sweet Caroline.’” If she were 20½ years old today, DiSalvo said, she would “absolutely, without hesitation” start a career as a flight attendant. So why retire? Part of the reason is that American offered veteran flight attendants a $40,000 payment to leave, but that probably moved up her departure by only a few months, she said. “There are a lot of changes going on with the airline, for one thing. Again, I don’t want to complain, but I have those little aches and pains. And like my dear friend said, ‘Carole, do you really want them to have to carry you off the airplane?’” she said. “I think 54 years is long enough. Don’t you think?” Carole DiSalvo, 75, sits in the engine of a new American Airlines Boeing 777-300 ER at American's maintenance facility at D/FW Airport. DiSalvo, who began work as a flight attendant at American in November 1958, retired last week after more than 54 years in the skies. Carole DiSalvo, who started with American at age 20, recalls that at the time, “two years was truly about the maximum that you would expect to fly.” This photo was taken during her training in 1958. When Carole DiSalvo began working as an American Airlines Inc. stewardess, she thought she might stay a couple of years. Maybe that long. “I was 20 when I went with American,” DiSalvo recalled. “And two years was truly the maximum. You couldn’t be married. Back then, people were getting married Carole DiSalvo, on the far right of the middle row, posed with her graduating class early in her career at American. She spoke last week to the carrier’s first class of new-hire flight attendants in 12 years. Carole DiSalvo began work as a flight attendant at American Airlines in 1958. At the time, rules stated no one could work as a flight attendant past age 32.
AFL-SVO-СБП: Бортпроводница авиакомпании «United Airlines» 70-летняя Barbara L. Porter летает уже более 52-х лет. http://republicanherald.com/news/after-52-years-auburn-woman-still-taking-to-the-skies-1.1290489 After 52 years, Auburn woman still taking to the skies by thomas leskin (staff writer firstname.lastname@example.org) Published: March 26, 2012 AUBURN - Barbara L. Porter has spent more time with her feet off than ground than most people during the past 52 years. A native of Ohio, she's lived in Auburn since 1973 and has worked in the airline industry since she was 18. "It's been quite a road and I would advise anyone to do it," Porter said. Now a flight attendant with United Airlines, her career began after she graduated high school in 1959. Porter said her parents couldn't afford to send her to college, so after high school her father sent her to an airline school, Central Technical Institute in Kansas City, Kan. There she entered a three-month program to become an airline hostess or reservation agent. When she got her first job after graduating, she said her parents nearly died from the news. "I was really too young to be an airline hostess, but TWA came in and hired me to be a reservation agent in Los Angeles," Porter said. "Hawaii wasn't a state yet and my mom said, 'Barbie you can't go there, it's as far as you can go in the United States, you can't go there.' " Flying from Kansas City to Los Angeles, she arrived at midnight, had $50 in her pocket and didn't know anyone. She ended up staying in a YWCA for the night before starting her career the next day. "I showed up at work the next morning and that was the beginning of my airline career in March 1960," Porter said. "Obviously, there was a lot of experiences and fears and excitement to start out like that because I knew no one." Porter's career lifted-off from there and in 1962 she transferred to Philadelphia to be closer to home. She was still working with TWA and was now old enough to become an airline hostess, also known as a flight attendant. "They either wanted two years of college or of work experience," Porter said. Already dating her husband, Alan, she could now be closer to him, and he also kept encouraging her to become a hostess. Porter got hired as one in 1964, working with TWA out of John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York. She and her husband got married in 1966, then she quit in 1969 to start a family. "In those days you couldn't have children," she said. "They had just allowed flight attendants to get married." Can't stay away Although Porter was off work while her children were growing up, she said she never stopped missing flying and working in the industry. Porter and her husband moved to Schuylkill County in 1973 from outside of Philadelphia, purchasing a farm and building a house on the property. They moved to the area because Alan is a self-employed machine tool maker and was working for Penske Racing, creating prototype parts for the race cars at Indianapolis. Once their children were older, Porter said that she missed the skies and would often go to the Reading Airport to ask about job openings. She was finally told that they ordered a new airplane, a smaller plane, and asked if she would like to be a "stew" (flight stewardess). "I stood up and said, oh yes," Porter said. "I was in shock, I was so excited." Starting work with Suburban Airlines Allegheny Commuter in 1978, she became the chief flight attendant for Suburban Airlines and was in charge of hiring the flight attendants. There were five in the beginning. In addition to normal duties, she also thought the commuter should be exactly like a major carrier, so she asked US Airways, which the commuter was under contract with, for information in order to mirror them and be as professional. She also had Suburban add an in-flight service, serving a snack to the passengers, although it was only a 30-minute flight. Her husband created a serving cart that could be assembled and disassembled quickly, also allowing them to sell liquor. "That's what we did and it made history with that commuter industry," she said. "People were buying our carts." Since they couldn't give away snacks, she contacted Anheuser-Busch that was starting a new project of in-flight retail snacks. Called Eagle Snacks from Anheuser-Bush, they were honey roasted peanuts and cheese curls. Porter said they were very popular. "I think we were the very first airline to get it and sell it," she said. "Passengers were buying it by the bag and we went to the other commuters who were then buying it and it was exciting." Rising career Although Porter was back at work for Allegheny, she eventually went back to work at TWA in 1983 when she said they had to "call all those moms back to work." "I couldn't resist because I had seniority," she said. She worked at TWA until American Airlines bought it in 2001, and all the TWA people were put at the bottom of the seniority list. Not long after, the events of Sept. 11, 2001 occurred, resulting in a furlough of all the former TWA workers. "That was really a big heartbreak, then after 9/11 I thought I had to be near an airline so I went to Allentown and joined TSA (Transportation Security Administration)," Porter said. She worked with TSA for three years from about 2003, until one morning her husband ran up the steps and told her that he was online and United Airlines was hiring flight attendants. "I said Alan, I'm 64 years old, they do not want me," she said. But Porter applied, got an interview in Washington, D.C., and was hired in February 2006. "I just feel so lucky and blessed because I love this job," she said. "I had to go through seven weeks of training and it was grilling because everything has changed now." While at the start of her career the duties were more about the passengers, after Sept. 11, 2001, it was now about self defense, to defend the airplane, the captain, the cockpit and the passengers. She said it went into "serious security," while still trying to have the congeniality with the passengers. Quite a journey After starting her career nearly 52 years ago, Porter is still in the skies working for United Airlines. She works various schedules and can work for as many as six days at a time without a day off. "It's the way the business is, you just don't know, and it's kind of exciting for me to walk in and the next minute I'm going to Beijing (China)," Porter said. "I never know how to pack and I spend a great deal of my time packing and unpacking bags." She added that United Airlines is now the world's largest airline and more than 40 percent of the people working for it are more than 50 years old. When she started her career, she said they had to sign a paper stating they would quit when they turned 35 years old. Working for multiple airlines over a half-century, she has had her share of experiences that made her into who she is today. She was working with TWA when flight TWA 800 exploded and crashed into the Atlantic Ocean near East Moriches, New York, on July 17, 1996, 12 minutes after takeoff from JFK, killing all 230 people on board. It was a scheduled international passenger flight from New York to Rome with a stopover in Paris. While regularly flying that route, that month she decided to take a break from the international time zones and fly domestic. Her friend was also supposed to fly that day, but it was her birthday and she went home. "Had she not traded out of that trip, and had I been with her and been on that trip, I wouldn't be here with you talking today," Porter said. Бортпроводницы Carolyn Baker и Bette Nash авиакомпании «US Airways» получили золотые "крылышки" как подтверждение их 50-летнего лётного стажа. http://www.facebook.com/afterflightwebsite US Airways Flight Attendants Carolyn Baker and Bette Nash receive their golden wings with pride for 50 years of service with the airline. 73-летняя бортпроводница Clelia Rodriguez Powers уже 50 лет работает в авиакомпании «American Airlines». http://www.facebook.com/afterflightwebsite Clelia Rodriguez Powers,73, who's been a airline stewardess for 50 years enjoys her most of her time in the air and at home. Clelia works for American Airlines. Друзья и коллеги бортпроводницы Peggy Turley поздравляют её с 50-летием лётной карьеры в авиакомпании «American Airlines» http://www.facebook.com/afterflightwebsite American Airlines flight attendant Peggy Turley receives a congratulatory hug from her colleague, Danny Jacques. Turley's friends and colleagues celebrated the 50 years of her career as a flight attendant Tuesday before she departed Raleigh on a flight to London.
AFL-SVO-СБП: Barbara Beckett, 72-летняя бортпроводница авиакомпании American Airlines выходит на песию после 53-х лет полётов и порядка 8,000 выполненных рейсов. American Airlines' longest serving flight attendant, 72, retires after 53 years and 8,000 journeys (видео: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2285522/American-Airlines-longest-serving-flight-attendant-retires-53-years-8-000-journeys.html )
FANTOMAS: AFL-SVO-СБП пишет: Barbara Beckett, 72-летняя бортпроводница авиакомпании American Airlines выходит на песию после 53-х лет полётов и порядка 8,000 выполненных рейсов. ...а, не попадались списки рекордов по налёту часов у БП?
AFL-SVO-СБП: FANTOMAS Пока - нет ... но, будем искать Вот ещё интересный пример ... Самый "возрастной" действующий бортпроводник в «Дельте» - Боб Рирдон. Два года назад отметил 60-летие лётной карьеры ... Delta To Celebrate Flight Attendant’s 60 Years Of Service With Cake & Appetizers…don’t they deserve more? - http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2011/08/15/delta-to-celebrate-flight-attendants-60-years-of-service-with-cake-hors-doeuvres-i-think-they-deserve-more/ Flying With Fish - Delta To Celebrate Flight Attendant’s 60 Years Of Service With Cake & Appetizers…don’t they deserve more? - http://travel.usatoday.com/alliance/flights/boardingarea/post/2011/08/Flying-With-Fish---Delta-To-Celebrate-Flight-Attendant8217s-60-Years-Of-Service-With-Cake-38-Appetizers8230don8217t-they-deserve-more/415232/1 On October 1st 1951 Bob Reardon began his career as a flight attendant with Northwest Orient. The dominant aircraft in Northwest Orient’s fleet when Bob Reardon started to fly were the Douglas DC-3, DC-6 and Boeing Stratocruiser, the Lockheed Constellation wasn’t even flying yet. When Mr. Reardon began to fly male flight attendants were rare, however Northwest Orient began hiring men to serve as flight attendants when the airline began serving liquor in flight, something most airlines did not do at the time, the logic was that male flight attendants could better handle intoxicated passengers.
FANTOMAS: AFL-SVO-СБП Ранее слышал, что они перелёт пассажиром на работу учитывают в налёт. (это под ?)
AFL-SVO-СБП: FANTOMAS Не уверен. Попробую узнать.
pavlito: AFL-SVO-СБП пишет: Ого!
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